On this episode of the RIoT underground podcast, Tom Snyder interviews Seth Berman, the CEO of Instantiations, a software development agency. They discuss how instantiations focuses on maintaining and modernizing legacy systems that are crucial to various sectors. Seth shares his background in software engineering and his passion for helping customers prolong the life of their important systems. He also talks about the value they place on the human element within the teams working with these legacy systems.